SOS ... Save Our S...

Save Our Suburbs.
C'est une association d'urbanisme qui correspond au genre d'association que je decrivais dans le post lance par Xavier (notre vie realiste et fantaisiste dans 10 ans). Allez voir leur site: www.sos.org.au
J'ai ecrit un email au president pour rejoindre l'association (je vous previens je ne mache pas mes mots):

Hi,
My name is Adrien and I may be thinking of joining Save Our Suburbs. I have always been very interested in urban planning and development. I have traveled the world (Asia, America, Europe…), seen many beautiful cities out there, nevertheless I am CONVINCED that Australian cities are the best in the world. I believe, the serenity and enjoyable lifestyle within our towns is unique, and is the reason why the world envies Australia so much. Most people do not realize but a lot of it has to do with urban planning.

Unfortunately, there is a whole mafia out there trying to RUIN the dream. As an immigrant from Europe, like many of my peers, I came here in part to flee the constant inhumane concrete oppression I was living on a daily basis. What I am seing today in some parts of Sydney scares me a lot. What I am hearing about urban consolidation, when Australia's main issue should be to better spread across the land, is just non-sense to me. I do not wish to see my hometown, so far the most beautiful city in the world, turn into an unlivable urban nightmare.

My question is: how will joining your association make me a proactive person?


Il m'a ensuite repondu:
Hi Adrien

Many thanks for your email indicating you are interested in joining Save Our Suburbs. From what you say it seems you have had a look at our website on www.sos.org.au and are aware that the objectives we strive for correspond with yours

Some of the activities we are involved in include:

* Researching the pros and cons of planning alternatives
* Attending public meetings and seminars in which we publicise our point of view
* Sending letters and opinion pieces to the press
* Phoning in to talk-back radio
* Appearing in interviews on radio and TV
* Taking part in public demonstrations
* Assisting resident action groups communicate with each other
* Standing candidates in state and local government elections.

There are possibilities for members to become involved in these activities.

Attached is a membership application form to join our community organisation Save Our Suburbs (SOS) NSW Inc for which the membership fee is $10 per year and a form to join the Save Our Suburbs political wing (the party name must be written in as "Save Our Suburbs"). You need to be a registered voter in Australia to be a member of the party political wing. Please return the completed form(s) to us at PO Box 492 Wahroonga NSW 2076.

When you have done this let us discuss the manner in which you would like to get involved.

Regards
Tony Recsei
President Save Our Suburbs

Il m'a convaincu, je vais les rejoindre
En ce qui concerne le parti politique par contre je vais attendre

Je ne suis pas un fan des suburbs, mais je suis contre l'idée du gouvernement qui décide où les gens doivent s'implanter (c'est contre l'idée du free market, ca crée des economic inefficiencies) et qui décite d'inciter a la surpopulation des villes.

Donc je supporte SOS de manière indirecte

Ca 'y est je suis membre:
Dear Adrien

On behalf of the committee and membership of SOS Inc we thank you for your application to join our organisation which is being processed. Your receipt for $10 is number 1877 dated 19 April 2006. It is in the mail.

Please refer to our website at www.sos.org.au to keep up to date with SOS information and activities. Our regular newsletters will be sent to your email address.

We look forward to communicating with you again in the near future.

Your interest is very much appreciated.
Yours sincerely
TONY RECSEI
President

SUITE A CA J'AI REPONDU:

Dear Dr. Recsei,

It is very good to hear from you, I am really looking forward to the SOS adventure. Please do let me know about anything that is going on. I will always try to be present when it comes to defending our quality of life for which consolidators seem to care little about.


Adrien.

LE MEC A PAS TARDE A ME REPONDRE:

Dear Adrien

Your enthusiastic response is most encouraging. We will keep you informed and look forward to your participation.

Regards
Tony

CA Y'EST LES MECS, MOI LE SOCIALISME JE NE FAIS PAS QUE DE LE CRITIQUER, JE LE COMBATS DESORMAIS

Congrats,

Moi je pense que je vais rejoindre un parti politique quand j'aurai la nationalité.

Me dit pas que tu va etre républicain !

Sinon bien joué Adrien, on en avait deja discuté en Australie, et deja je trouvais ton idée pas mal !

Bah dans l'absolu j'ai un ideal republicain, c.a.d le gouvernement n'intervient pas dans les etats et fait le minimum vital au niveau federal tout en essayant d'ameliorer le climat d'affaires, le libre choix (en matiere de retraite par exemple).

Apres c'est vrai que le republicain au pouvoir en ce moment est pas le meilleur.

Maisbon comme dit adrien les USA c'est une monarchie hereditaire, donc j'ai espoir que le petit fils de Reagan arrive au pouvoir un jour.

Hier j'ai ete a un meeting ou il y'avait le legendaire Wendell Cox Ce type je le connais depuis longtemps car j'avais deja passez des heures sur son site (lorsque j'etais a Paris) que je vous recommande: WWW.DEMOGRAPHIA.COM Mon association l'a invite a Sydney alors forecement j'ete un peu comme une groupie hier soir en l'ecoutant faire une presentation sur les derives de l'urbanisme a Sydney.
Ci-dessous un article precedent sa visite:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/back-to-the-burbs--the-case-for-the-car/2006/08/18/1155408025338.html

PRESQUE PUBLIE!!!!

Email distribue a tous les membres de l'association par notre President Tony Recsei:

Hi SOS Members

We have several times referred to the outlandish claim made by the high-density fanatics that high-density is good for our health. Naturally no proof has been provided for this assertion. For me the most memorable performance of this type was the seminar in September featuring Professor Howard Frumkin and Professor Anthony Capon.

SOS member Adrien Krebs writes as follows:

Due to my experience of living in both high and low density cities, I have to disagree with density advocates who argue that higher density promotes physical exercice, thus better physical and mental health.

When I was living in Paris where population density is 20 000 inhabitant per km2, I was doing less exercice. The reason is high density means your building is not by a park, but by another building, which is near another building and another and another...There are less parks in where one can jog, less fields to play ball games. When you are lucky enough to live next to one, it is most likely saturated and overcrowded. Roads are jammed with traffic and polluted so biking becomes impossible in town. The only way to go for a sane and healthy bike ride is to take your car and leave town to go to the forest. Footpaths are cluttered with people and going for a simple run around the block becomes a crowd dodging game. Sometimes you may not even pass as cars will actually park on the footpath since it is the only spot they can find close to their appartment. So even if you have the will to do sports, the only thing higher density will do to your health is build up frustration. Perhaps your best chance at exercising is to belong to a costly private club and exercise indoors.
Australia manages to rank 4th at the olympics with only 20 million people, just behind huge countries such as USA (300 million people), China (more than 1 billion) or Russia (150 million), because sports has become apart of our way of life. One of the reasons is that we have provided ourselves with a sport friendly environment in which to live. Other countries such as India which has cities of huge densities do not seem to be as sporty. I believe there are two main reasons to the amount of physical exercice people do: will and infrastructure. If ever there is a link between density and exercise, it is that density generally provides a less sport-friendly environment with less appropriate infrastructure and ultimately encouraging people to exercise less. If urban congestioners are not kicked out they will have succeeded in creating communities where youngsters do not meet for a rugby game anymore, but for a coffee and cigarette just downstairs from their box-unit.

[b]PS: Desole Xavier je sais que c'est long des que c'est sur le web j'enverrai le lien a la place...

Sympa mec, en plus c est pas mal ce que tu as ecrit !

Le fait est que sans infrastructures, c'est l'absence d'obstacle qui rend les villes a faible densité plus sportives (tu trouve facilement un parc ou terrain vague pour jouer au foot)

Mais avec des infrastructures il y a moyen d'avoir des villes denses et sportives, je connais pas la densité de Chicago mais je sais que je suis en pleine ville mais je fais du sport parceque j'ai dans un rayon de 500 metres de chez moi un parc, un golf, un terrain de basket, 3 clubs de gym, et 2 pistes cyclables dont une le mi jogging mi velo le long du lac sur 25 km

Tout a fait possible Mathieu, mais pour la bonne cause ne repandons pas cet argument dangereux. Les intellectuels planificateurs sont a 2 doigts de dire que vivre a Manhattan, Tokyo ou dans le coeur de Mexico c'est meilleur pour la sante que vivre dans un village vert entoures de forets au bord de mer ou dans la montagne sous pretexte que tu marcheras pour acheter ton pain.